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The Department of Redundancy Department

Unread postby Jive Dadson » Mon, 26 May 2014, 05:48

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Re: The Department of Redundancy Department

Unread postby Jive Dadson » Mon, 26 May 2014, 05:57

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Re: The Department of Redundancy Department

Unread postby New Tobin Paradigm » Mon, 26 May 2014, 06:11

This issue is best outlined here: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4651

EDIT: Ok, sorry. I am not sure how to take this thread. Is it to convey and actual issue or just for fun. Because I am down for either. In all seriousness I kinda see your point. Moonchild reimplementing the caption title would have it display in it's entirety. Which is %title% - %appname%. I am not sure if he would make a conditional in the code to omit the %apptitle% part of it when viewed with no menu bar it would seem to do as such would add an unnecessary complication to code. Truth be told this doesn't bother me and some people collapse the app menu to an icon with an addon or userChrome trick.
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Re: The Department of Redundancy Department

Unread postby Moonchild » Mon, 26 May 2014, 07:40

The nondescript department of nondescriptness when making nondescript threads with just images.

If it really bothers you, you can always use the classic menu bar, as well ;)
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Re: The Department of Redundancy Department

Unread postby Jive Dadson » Mon, 26 May 2014, 07:52

Fair enough. But Firefox somehow manages not to show the redundant label.

I was a software engineer for over 35 years. I think I developed chronic pickyitus.

I should say, I have fallen madly in love with Pale Moon.

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Re: The Department of Redundancy Department

Unread postby Moonchild » Mon, 26 May 2014, 11:10

Firefox doesn't show the label because Firefox doesn't show the page title at all when it shows the AppMenu button. ;)

I've looked at the relevant code though, just to be sure, but it's not something that can easily be changed. The title is used by more than just the display title, and is tied in with the "can draw in title bar" state of the browser, language strings, private browsing mode and a few other things. I may remove it completely for all states, as on modern OS-es it has very little use anymore.
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Re: The Department of Redundancy Department

Unread postby Sowmoots » Mon, 26 May 2014, 18:32

I actually prefer the application name being in the title, since it's standard behavior for program windows to display it's name and the current opened document(tab) in it's title bar. If you don't want redundancy, you can style the Pale Moon button to display other text instead.

Code: Select all

#appmenu-button dropmarker:before {
    content: "Menu" !important;
    padding-right: 6px !important;
}
#appmenu-button > hbox > hbox > label {
    display: none !important;
}
#main-window::after {
    padding-left: 110px !important;
}

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Re: The Department of Redundancy Department

Unread postby lyceus » Sat, 31 May 2014, 00:03

Suddenly I see Arthur in the corridor again, avocados anyone? ;)

Maybe this could be a nice add-on for the Palemoon Commander, aka made Palemoon look like X version of FireFox so people can customize this small bits in the program.

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Re: The Department of Redundancy Department

Unread postby tymyrick » Wed, 11 Jun 2014, 17:31

One good reason to leave the program name in the title bar along with the page name is so the user can reference it when writing scripts on their computer. I use AutoHotKey to automate various actions. Some of those actions are program specific. Since it is standard on Windows to have the program name in the title bar, it is possible to write scripts that check for the program name on each window before activating.

I don't currently have any scripts that reference Pale Moon specifically, but if I would prefer to leave the name in the title bar, for that reason if no other.

Thank you.

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Re: The Department of Redundancy Department

Unread postby Jive Dadson » Sun, 02 Nov 2014, 06:30

Sowmoots wrote:I actually prefer the application name being in the title, since it's standard behavior for program windows to display it's name and the current opened document(tab) in it's title bar. If you don't want redundancy, you can style the Pale Moon button to display other text instead.

Code: Select all

#appmenu-button dropmarker:before {
    content: "Menu" !important;
    padding-right: 6px !important;
}
#appmenu-button > hbox > hbox > label {
    display: none !important;
}
#main-window::after {
    padding-left: 110px !important;
}


Plus...

Code: Select all

#main-window::after {
  opacity: 0 !important
}

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Re: The Department of Redundancy Department

Unread postby MaxwellSmart » Sun, 24 May 2015, 20:07

I realize this is an old thread, but in response to
quote: "I may remove it completely for all states, as on modern OS-es it has very little use anymore." ~Moonchild
One very important use for the title bar, even when invisible, is that KeePass + KeeFox use the title bar to pick up either the hostname, url
or window title for each correlating password entry. Removing this would require KeePass users to enter window titles or whatever they use
to title their entries by hand. I easily have over 900 entries in KeepPass. Even though I occasionally have issues with the text in the title bar,
please don't actually remove it.
P.S. Even though this is my first post, I have been using and loving Pale Moon for at least 4 years. Stick to your guns, and thanks for the great work.

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Re: The Department of Redundancy Department

Unread postby back2themoon » Sun, 31 May 2015, 17:33

Tried the code above but it seems to remove all text from the title bar - not possible to only remove " - Pale Moon"?

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