Не открывает страницы !!!

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leontv

Не открывает страницы !!!

Unread post by leontv » 2015-02-08, 05:33

Долго сидел на PaleMoon пока не обнаружил, что некоторые страницы он НЕ ОТКРЫВАЕТ!!!
Пример https://uralsg.megafon.ru/
Снес его и перешел на другую луну - Lunascape.

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Re: Не открывает страницы !!!

Unread post by Moonchild » 2015-02-08, 10:42

Пожалуйста, поймите, что ваши неудачи соединительные проблема с сервером.

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze ... megafon.ru
Grade: F
This site is intolerant to newer protocol versions, which might cause connection failures.
The server supports only older protocols, but not the current best TLS 1.2.
There is no support for secure renegotiation.
This server's certificate chain is incomplete.
This server is vulnerable to MITM attacks because it supports insecure renegotiation.

(Google translated for your convenience:)
Этот сайт не переносит новых версий протокола, которые могут являться причиной сбоя соединения.
Сервер поддерживает только старые протоколы, но не текущие лучшие TLS 1.2.
Там нет поддержки для безопасной пересмотра.
Цепочка сертификатов этого сервера является неполной.
Этот сервер является уязвимым для MITM атак, поскольку он поддерживает небезопасные пересмотра.
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Re: Не открывает страницы !!!

Unread post by leontv » 2015-02-08, 19:43

Это вы сейчас о чем?
P.S. У других (не Palemoon) браузеров такой проблемы нет!

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Re: Не открывает страницы !!!

Unread post by leontv » 2015-02-08, 19:46

Moonchild wrote:Пожалуйста, поймите, что ваши неудачи соединительные проблема с сервером.
Вы про что?

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Re: Не открывает страницы !!!

Unread post by Moonchild » 2015-02-08, 23:10

Sorry about my failure of writing Russian - I shouldn't try more than reading :D
Maybe someone can properly translate.

The connection problem is caused by the server. It is poorly configured and should be updated and reconfigured to be secure over https.
Other browsers may have less issue connecting, because they do not require as strictly followed standards for secure connections. See other threads on this very forum (and the FAQ) for more details.

This reply was mostly just for your information since Pale Moon was already "demolished" by the OP (so the post was also "for my information" only) to go to a different browser. That's fine, but understand that Pale Moon is not at fault here.
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Re: Не открывает страницы !!!

Unread post by leontv » 2015-02-09, 03:21

Ок!

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Re: Не открывает страницы !!!

Unread post by TurboBlaze » 2015-02-14, 19:21

Moonchild wrote:The connection problem is caused by the server. It is poorly configured and should be updated and reconfigured to be secure over https.
Other browsers may have less issue connecting, because they do not require as strictly followed standards for secure connections
If open this web site In Firefox 35.0.1 (x64)

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https://uralsg.megafon.ru/
it's work fine for me, but in Pale Moon 25.2.1 (x64) i have this error

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The connection was interrupted
I think it's bug SSL (https) in Pale Moon browser or Firefox browser may have less issue connecting, because he does not require as strictly followed standards for secure connections
Pale Moon Team, can you fix it?

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Re: Не открывает страницы !!!

Unread post by Moonchild » 2015-02-15, 12:08

No, this is not a "bugged SSL" in Pale Moon. Firefox simply tries and tries again with less secure methods until it can connect "connect at all costs despite security considerations". In fact, I'd say this is "bugged SSL" in Firefox, instead, because they are doing something that is not within the specification. They should abort the connection according to the spec, but they don't.

The specs are there for a reason. The indicated "abort" in it is there for a reason too.
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Re: Не открывает страницы !!!

Unread post by TurboBlaze » 2015-02-15, 16:35

Hi Moonchild.
Ok. If i will generate self-signed ssl certificate via OpenSSL for my web site - it will not be open in Pale Moon?

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Re: Не открывает страницы !!!

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2015-02-15, 18:30

Pale Moon would rightfully not be able to verify the authenticity of a self signed cert as it wasn't signed by a CA. You can accept the cert manually and allow it to pass but that will only be the case for you.

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