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would love to see these add-ons optimized

Postby ellenelle » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:15 pm

IMO any browser that wants to be competitive these days should have a reliable form auto-fill feature and a reliable ad-blocker. Firefox has neither: I use a form-filling add-on called FireForm, but it is rather buggy and FF's ad blocker is notoriously buggy.

I don't know if it is within the scope of the PM developers to fix other people's add-ons, but I think it would be worthwhile to give these your attention.

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Ellen

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Re: would love to see these add-ons optimized

Postby Pnume » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:32 pm

Fixing other people's add-ons would be too much work, I'd think.

I recommend using the ad-blocking add-on AdBlock Plus and the form-filling add-on/password manager LastPass.
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Re: would love to see these add-ons optimized

Postby Moonchild » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:29 pm

Pale moon does remember things you have entered in forms. It may not "auto-fill" the fields, but if you either click the field or type part of the entry and it's present in history, it will suggest it. (You have to tell Pale Moon to remember search and form history, which is enabled by default in the options if you have "remember history" enabled, or have the relevant checkbox checked if the setting are set to "custom"). Completely automatic filling of fields when a page is loaded is something I'd personally be weary about, actually, as it can be abused to harvest/steal data.
Passwords can be remembered with the built-in password manager as well, and effectively so - I do suggest you safeguard your passwords with a master password in that case so the data is encrypted on your drive. You don't necessarily need a third party tool for either function.

AdBlock Plus is by far the best ad-blocker out there I've seen, and strongly recommended.
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Re: would love to see these add-ons optimized

Postby PeterDr » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:49 pm

Pnume wrote:I recommend using .... the form-filling add-on/password manager LastPass.

I have used Roboform for years, and have too many logins and passwords for too many sites and services to change to a Browser-based password manager.

LastPass is an excellent program, but does not easily allow importation of data from other password managers. Roboform can be accessed in other browsers, like Firefox, either with a toolbar, or (my preferred system) by using the Right-click Menu on the log-in page of the site you want to access.

Is it possible to import Roboform from Firefox, or have Pale Moon? connect to Roboform?
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Re: would love to see these add-ons optimized

Postby megaman » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:24 am

PeterDr wrote:LastPass is an excellent program, but does not easily allow importation of data from other password managers. Roboform can be accessed in other browsers, like Firefox, either with a toolbar, or (my preferred system) by using the Right-click Menu on the log-in page of the site you want to access.

Is it possible to import Roboform from Firefox, or have Pale Moon? connect to Roboform?

There is an option for LP to send passwords to Firefox.
If Roboform can send the passwords to Firefox...then send to LP or use Firefox Sync to store them.

If there is an option to export the passwords from Roboform into a file, I believe .csv, LP will import it.
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Re: would love to see these add-ons optimized

Postby PeterDr » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:18 am

megaman wrote:There is an option for LP to send passwords to Firefox.
If Roboform can send the passwords to Firefox...then send to LP or use Firefox Sync to store them.

If there is an option to export the passwords from Roboform into a file, I believe .csv, LP will import it.

Thank you for the suggestions. However, they concern ways to use Last Pass, and I am using Roboform. No disrespect to LastPass, but I would prefer to continue to use Roboform.

There are some sites that I have to use for my work, which (for whatever reason, and however foolish it may seem) require the use of (horror) IE. My copy of Roboform is set up for those sites, plus the many dozens of others of all sorts which I use from time to time, and for which I use FireFox

So my question still remains: is there way to have Pale Moon function with Roboform? If so, then I will happily become a Pale Moon enthusiast. :)

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Re: would love to see these add-ons optimized

Postby Moonchild » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:59 pm

Roboform has always been a problem, and the Roboform developers simply refuse to provide support for Pale Moon. A few people have been able to get it to work in the past by using a "lite" version .XPI but no guarantees that that works or will continue to work. Roboform's refusal to support Pale Moon or to even provide support for getting it to work in Pale Moon has been a thorn in quite a few users' sides - especially with the growing popularity of this browser, and more and more third party tools including Pale Moon support, they may actually be looking at losing paying customers.

Most compatibility issues there are with add-ons are the result of one or more of the following:
  1. Assuming a default Firefox profile location (this will also prevent the add-on from working in Firefox if the profile is not stored in the default location)
  2. Assuming a default application path or requesting it from the Windows Registry under the name "Firefox"
  3. Hard-coding component names like "firefox.exe" into the add-on
  4. The add-on using components that are not present in Pale Moon, e.g. accessibility features

By far the most issues are because of 1, 2, and 3, which are easily fixed by the add-on developers if they would take the time and effort to do so.
And yes, making add-ons compatible with Pale Moon falls outside of the scope of Pale Moon development.
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