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Pepper Flash now working on Palemoon on Linux!

Unread post by Jaaday » 2014-12-22, 05:14

Every since the update from Mint 17 (Qiana) to Mint 17.1 (Rebecca), Adobe flash would no longer work at all in either Palemoon or even Firefox(rarely used, backup), no matter which version or install method I used. I found that someone has created a wrapper which lets Palemoon and Firefox borrow/use Google Chrome Pepper Flash (ver. 16). So far (finger crossed, knock on wood) it has worked perfect for me, Hulu and youtube just purr along with out even a stutter. With this Palemoon is now 100 percent as good as the windows version for basically everything, cheers mates, hope it works for you too. Just because we use Linux why should be stuck with ver. 11.2

http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install- ... buntu.html

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Re: Pepper Flash now working on Palemoon on Linux!

Unread post by martywd » 2014-12-22, 06:33

Jaaday wrote:....
I found that someone has created a wrapper which lets Palemoon and Firefox borrow/use Google Chrome Pepper Flash (ver. 16). ....

http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install- ... buntu.html

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I already had chromium-browser and pepperflashplugin-nonfree installed so I figure I'd give this a try? Just installed this on LM 17.1 Xfce RC 64-bit and it's working in Pale Moon 25.1.0 (x64)!

Thanks Jaaday!
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Re: Pepper Flash now working on Palemoon on Linux!

Unread post by trava90 » 2014-12-22, 08:38

Nice find! For those of us (like me) who would rather not have to install Chrome (as the webupd8 article suggests), there is also a PPA that installs just the pepper flash package instead of the browser itself:

https://launchpad.net/~skunk/+archive/ubuntu/pepper-flash
The package is similar to Ubuntu's official flashplugin-installer in that it does not include the plugin itself, but instead downloads the plugin and installs it automatically. (Specifically, it downloads the latest Google Chrome package, extracts the Pepper Flash files, and installs only those. Google Chrome itself is not installed nor otherwise used in any way.)
(I have not yet tested this. I will try it in the next day or so and report back.)

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Unread post by Moonchild » 2014-12-22, 08:53

Since that works, the question is then: is this wrapper available for Windows as well? Because if I can bundle PepperFlash like Chrome does, then that's something I'd really like to consider.
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Unread post by trava90 » 2014-12-22, 09:46

I've not been able to find anything online about it being available for Windows. The source code is on GitHub though; could it possibly be built or forked for Windows?

https://github.com/i-rinat/freshplayerplugin

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Unread post by Jaaday » 2014-12-23, 03:23

@Moonchild; Man that would be awesome, I love Palemoon on my windows laptop, and I love it now that you all have ported it to Linux (my desktop), just hated be limited to ver 11.2. Now if you could bundle the latest pepperflash with the windows and Linux version. then Palemoon would be rockin the net with the best browser out there. btw I did get an update of fresh pepper wrapper today and hardware acceleration seems to be working now for me with no problems

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Unread post by Antonius32 » 2014-12-23, 16:27

I'd like to install Fresh Player (and Pepper Flash Player) on PCLinuxOS x64. Which one of the packages on http://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu/pool/main/f/freshplayerplugin/ would be most suitable?

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Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2014-12-23, 16:36

This is still experimental and incomplete.. Also as for whoever said something about windows.. i already asked them months ago.. they don't seem to care..

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Unread post by Moonchild » 2014-12-23, 19:26

Travis just relayed some info from the wrapper developer, and it's not that they don't care, it's that the wrapper needs specific code for Windows and Mac OSX which is beyond the developer's time/availability. Of course making a Mac or Win fork instead of multi-OS unified package is an option that can be maintained by individual people. I myself clearly won't have time for something like that.
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Re: Pepper Flash now working on Palemoon on Linux!

Unread post by trava90 » 2014-12-24, 10:59

Antonius32 wrote:I'd like to install Fresh Player (and Pepper Flash Player) on PCLinuxOS x64. Which one of the packages on http://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu/pool/main/f/freshplayerplugin/ would be most suitable?
PPA are only for Ubuntu and Ubuntu-based distro's (such as Linux Mint). I'm not completely familiar with PCLinuxOS, but I do know that it was originally forked from Mandriva. As a result of that, PCLinuxOS uses RPM's to install software, not deb files. You should be able to build the wrapper yourself using the install instructions on the project's GitHub page (see my link above).

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Re: Pepper Flash now working on Palemoon on Linux!

Unread post by Antonius32 » 2015-01-12, 16:08

@trava90: Thank you for explaining. I will look into it when I have more time.

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Re: Pepper Flash now working on Palemoon on Linux!

Unread post by trava90 » 2015-01-13, 06:50

You're welcome! It really is pretty easy to build yourself. On my Manjaro (Arch based distro) laptop, it only took a couple minutes to build. Been working like a charm since!

If you run into any problems or have more questions, feel free to post about it and myself or one of the other Linux users here should be able to help you.

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Re: Pepper Flash now working on Palemoon on Linux!

Unread post by Antonius32 » 2015-01-13, 15:36

Thanks again. Do you think converting the .deb package to .rpm format with Alien could be a solution?

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Re: Pepper Flash now working on Palemoon on Linux!

Unread post by trava90 » 2015-01-14, 07:44

I've never personally used Alien (if I'm unable to find a package I need I'll generally just build it from source), but you could give it a try! I'd be careful though, various things I've seen by searching DDG seems to suggest that installing rpm's that aren't included in the PCLinuxOS repository is not recommended (see this thread on the PCLOS forum, for instance).

Again, let me say that I'm not as familiar with PCLinuxOS as I am with other distros, so it might be best if you asked on the PCLOS forums first and see what the support staff there has to say. I don't want you to break your system!

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Re: Pepper Flash now working on Palemoon on Linux!

Unread post by Antonius32 » 2015-01-17, 11:40

Of course it's always best to see if a package is available in the official repositories first, but I do run a few applications that I've installed manually (Pale Moon is one of them!). So far, I haven't had any problems, but I backup my root partition every now and then, just in case something goes wrong.

I will look into converting the package with Alien later; I'll let you know if it worked!

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Re: Pepper Flash now working on Palemoon on Linux!

Unread post by mozart78 » 2015-01-28, 01:37

I installed it, after flash player problem after the last 25.2.1 Pale Moon update, and it works!!! Happy Arch Linux and Pale Moon user!

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Unread post by Crystallas » 2015-01-28, 11:13

I was putting this off until Flash 11 Mozilla EOL started to hit nearer and nearer. Just to buy time until Shumway was a bit more reliable. With 25.2.1 and the recent block, I did like some of you here.

And I must say, pepper on palemoon is truly incredible. Much better on resources and zero stability issues on an Arch machine and a Mint/Ubuntu machine.



Highly recommended!

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Unread post by Makitk » 2015-01-28, 17:11

Anyone know how to get this working on CrunchBang (Debian-based)? The PPAs never worked for me.

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Unread post by trava90 » 2015-01-28, 20:36

PPA's are designed to be used for Ubuntu and Ubuntu-derived distros (such as Linux Mint). While some PPA's might work on Debian-based distros (usually requires workarounds), it is not recommended. There are instruction on the project's GitHub page (see link below) on how to build from source (which is honestly really easy; if you run into problems post here and myself or one of the other Linux users should be able to help you).

https://github.com/i-rinat/freshplayerplugin

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Unread post by Makitk » 2015-01-28, 21:47

trava90 wrote:PPA's are designed to be used for Ubuntu and Ubuntu-derived distros (such as Linux Mint). While some PPA's might work on Debian-based distros (usually requires workarounds), it is not recommended. There are instruction on the project's GitHub page (see link below) on how to build from source (which is honestly really easy; if you run into problems post here and myself or one of the other Linux users should be able to help you).

https://github.com/i-rinat/freshplayerplugin
I had to build a different program from source before and had to install over 60 different programs simply to build it, and then it still refused to actually run... those 60 extra programs are still installed, so I will try it again.
Is it otherwise possible to just grab the pepper flash .so file and move it to the palemoon plugins folder? Debian comes with pepper flash as a non-free download, but puts it only on the system for Chrome and its derivatives.