Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by access2godzilla » 2014-11-14, 10:45

First things first: are you planning to provide your own repo on your server, or are you planning to host the repo on the distro website server? If its the latter, you have to provide a source package, and thus cannot use my tool.

The tool sets up the post-install filesystem structure and invokes a packaging tool to build a package from the provided FS strcuture.

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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by SivaMachina » 2014-12-02, 04:46

I know this article is old now ...but apperantly Palemoon is in the AUR for Arch and its derivatives https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&K=palemoon

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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by TanKe » 2014-12-02, 21:30

The problem for me is the linux installer script which does not work on every distro (mainly KDE based due to GTK incompatibility). Maybe an RPM and DEB packages may solve some initial problems about incopatibility.

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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by Moonchild » 2014-12-04, 09:59

The licensing for binary redistribution has changed recently to allow this kind of exception.
So, AUR and similar would be prefectly fine, although commercial Linux distros do still need to get an agreement with me.

See http://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml, point 8, quoted below
An exception applies to point 5 of this license for inclusion of the officially branded binaries in freely available and fully Open Source operating systems, including but not limited to non-commercial variants of Linux, variants of BSD and ReactOS. This exception only applies to unaltered versions of the Pale Moon binaries or officially branded variants specifically built for the target operating system from unaltered sources (including brand-specific configurations like e.g. home page, default search engine). If any of the essential settings of the browser are altered beyond what is strictly needed for providing a working build on the target operating system, the exception in this point does not apply and the license defaults to point 10, instead.
(point 5 restricts inclusion of the browser in a larger works, point 10 outlines the needs for official endorsement for officially branded binaries)
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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by jumba » 2014-12-04, 11:10

Also, AUR is Arch User Repository, to share unofficial PKGBUILD files that are instructions to create own Arch linux packages. Pale Moon is not included in the Arch Linux package repositories.

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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by squarefractal » 2015-02-03, 08:21

Are there any updates on this? Although the provided installer does work, I'm sure many would prefer packages that can be updated with a package manager and that is thus tightly integrated into the system.

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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by Moonchild » 2015-02-03, 13:04

squarefractal wrote:Are there any updates on this? Although the provided installer does work, I'm sure many would prefer packages that can be updated with a package manager and that is thus tightly integrated into the system.
Any updates on what, exactly? there's like 10 different things discussed in this topic ;)
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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by squarefractal » 2015-02-03, 15:47

Whether there are any plans to provide packages for Pale Moon for various distros.

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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by Moonchild » 2015-02-03, 19:55

squarefractal wrote:Whether there are any plans to provide packages for Pale Moon for various distros.
You're asking the wrong person.

I'm not going to do distro packaging. That is up to the distro maintainers to do. I don't have the required knowledge (or time) to begin with to know what the requirements and procedures are for distro-specific packages.

The redist license allows for redistribution in OS-specific repackaged form -- see the noted exception under point 3a -- so people are free to jump to it and make it happen.
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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by mozart78 » 2015-02-03, 20:17

As it happens in Arch :)
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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by trava90 » 2015-02-03, 21:38

It is still on my to-do list, but as of yet I have not had the time to look into it any further. As Moonchild said, feel free to jump in and make it happen until I have time for it.

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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by trava90 » 2015-02-06, 08:32

Manjaro will be including Pale Moon as the default browser in the upcoming version 0.8.12 of their netbook edition.

https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=19682.0
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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by squarefractal » 2015-02-06, 09:12

Nice to see Pale Moon being adopted in a number of distros, first "Tahrpup" Puppy Linux, and now in the "Manjaro Netbook edition" :)

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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by trava90 » 2015-02-06, 09:16

Yes it is! :thumbup:

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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by mozart78 » 2015-02-06, 10:37

Great!!!
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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by Moonchild » 2015-02-06, 17:29

trava90 wrote:Manjaro will be including Pale Moon as the default browser in the upcoming version 0.8.12 of their netbook edition.

https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=19682.0
Awesome news!! :) :thumbup:
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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by mozart78 » 2015-02-06, 17:56

Long live Pale Moon. It is out salvation, really!
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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by jumba » 2015-02-16, 10:07

Just noticed that PCLinuxOS includes PM:
Pale Moon is available for installation from the PCLinuxOS Synaptic Software Manager!
http://www.pclinuxos.com/pale-moon-the- ... o-firefox/

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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by Night Wing » 2015-02-16, 13:30

Looks like linux Pale Moon is gaining some traction with the developers of some linux distros. Nice to see it in PClinuxOS.
Linux Mint 21.3 (Virginia) Xfce w/ Linux Pale Moon, Linux Waterfox, Linux SeaLion, Linux Firefox
MX Linux 23.2 (Libretto) Xfce w/ Linux Pale Moon, Linux Waterfox, Linux SeaLion, Linux Firefox
Linux Debian 12.5 (Bookworm) Xfce w/ Linux Pale Moon, Linux Waterfox, Linux SeaLion, Linux Firefox

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Re: Inclusion of Pale Moon for Linux in distros

Unread post by trava90 » 2015-02-16, 19:19

Great news! :thumbup: