Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos... Topic is solved

Users and developers helping users with generic and technical Pale Moon issues on all operating systems.

Moderator: trava90

Forum rules
This board is for technical/general usage questions and troubleshooting for the Pale Moon browser only.
Technical issues and questions not related to the Pale Moon browser should be posted in other boards!
Please keep off-topic and general discussion out of this board, thank you!
SfdudePM

Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by SfdudePM » 2016-04-09, 00:23

...when clicking on any Twitter video,
I get this message:
"This browser does not support video playback". :wtf:

1) I have the latest Flash version
for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32-bit.
2) Video plays ok in latest version of FF browser.

SFdude
- Pale Moon 26.2.1 and FF 44
- Ubuntu Linux 12.04 (32-bit)

User avatar
trava90
Contributing developer
Contributing developer
Posts: 1742
Joined: 2013-05-20, 18:19
Location: Somewhere in Sector 001

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by trava90 » 2016-04-09, 01:25

It's likely due to Pale Moon now using GStreamer 1.x for H.264 video (which appears to be what Twitter is using), which is not available for Ubuntu 12.04.

There is a PPA you can use to get GStreamer 1.0, or alternatively you can try setting media.gstreamer.enabled to false in about:config (which will hopefully cause it to fall back to WebM or another format).

SfdudePM

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by SfdudePM » 2016-04-09, 02:31

Thanks for the answer, Trava!

I tried both your alternative solutions:
Sol a) setting media.gstreamer.enabled to: false
(it was: true before)
and restarting PM.

Sol b) adding the PPA you suggested and updating PPA sources
and restarting PM.

Result for both solutions = same message:
"This browser does not support video playback" :(

Here's the test URL:
video of SpaceX rocket landing on water in a Twitter post...
https://goo.gl/Fljic2

- Pale Moon 26.2.1 and FF 44
- Ubuntu Linux 12.04 (32-bit)

derram

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by derram » 2016-04-09, 13:19

sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0*

Then switch media.gstreamer.enabled to true.

Might need a restart.

User avatar
trava90
Contributing developer
Contributing developer
Posts: 1742
Joined: 2013-05-20, 18:19
Location: Somewhere in Sector 001

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by trava90 » 2016-04-09, 16:07

SfdudePM wrote:Sol b) adding the PPA you suggested and updating PPA sources
and restarting PM.
After the PPA has been added to your system, you will need to install the appropriate packages:

Code: Select all

sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0 gst-plugins-base1.0 gst-plugins-good1.0 gst-libav1.0
should do it. Optionally, you can also install the gst-plugins-bad1.0 and gst-plugins-ugly1.0 packages.

SfdudePM

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by SfdudePM » 2016-04-09, 18:07

@Trava

- after following
your instructions in the post above this one,
should I switch media.gstreamer.enabled
to: true or to: false ?

I imagine I should also re-start the browser?

thks,
SFdudePM
- Pale Moon 26.2.1 and FF 44
- Ubuntu Linux 12.04 (32-bit)

User avatar
trava90
Contributing developer
Contributing developer
Posts: 1742
Joined: 2013-05-20, 18:19
Location: Somewhere in Sector 001

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by trava90 » 2016-04-09, 18:33

You will need to switch it back to true and also restart your browser.

SfdudePM

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by SfdudePM » 2016-04-09, 20:39

Thanks Trava90 and derram!.

Tried both solutions
and Twitter videos work now. :thumbup:

Love my Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit LTS.
Not ready to upgrade to the latest Ubuntu version yet...

Thanks again to both,
SFdudePM
- Pale Moon 26.2.1 and FF 44
- Ubuntu Linux 12.04 (32-bit)

User avatar
trava90
Contributing developer
Contributing developer
Posts: 1742
Joined: 2013-05-20, 18:19
Location: Somewhere in Sector 001

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by trava90 » 2016-04-09, 21:43

Great! Glad it's working for you now! :)

IanDSamson

Re: Latest PM 26.2.2: Cannot play TWITTER videos...

Unread post by IanDSamson » 2016-05-11, 15:25

Wish mine was. Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 2.8.8 x64, Pale Moon 26.2.2
Changed the media toggle to false, changed back to true, made no difference.
Installed gstreamer1.0*
Restarted browser
Restarted PC
No difference.
The media could not be played.
Used variety of search terms.
The media could not be played.
Sorry, guyz, I've tried everything now.

User avatar
stevenpusser
Project Contributor
Project Contributor
Posts: 903
Joined: 2015-08-01, 18:33

Re: Latest PM 26.2.2: Cannot play TWITTER videos...

Unread post by stevenpusser » 2016-05-12, 21:17

IanDSamson wrote:Wish mine was. Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 2.8.8 x64, Pale Moon 26.2.2
Changed the media toggle to false, changed back to true, made no difference.
Installed gstreamer1.0*
Restarted browser
Restarted PC
No difference.
The media could not be played.
Used variety of search terms.
The media could not be played.
Sorry, guyz, I've tried everything now.
Hmmm--what do you show for

Code: Select all

apt-cache policy gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly

IanDSamson

Re: Latest PM 26.2.2: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by IanDSamson » 2016-05-14, 12:48

gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly:
Installed: 1.2.3-2build1
Candidate: 1.2.3-2build1
Version table:
*** 1.2.3-2build1 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

MasterOfNone

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by MasterOfNone » 2016-05-14, 23:08

PM 26.2.2 Win 7 Home Premium SP1

You Linux people are not alone. :(
Don't know exactly when Twitter started offering this junk, but way too many jumped right in and started using it.
Must be optimized for Smart Phones, because of course EVERYONE has one if not several. :roll:

Paranoid me thought it might be Twitter trying to sabotage PM. Then tried MSIE because I can't NOT have it, being an undeletable part of Windows—after XP. Those rotten Twitter Videos don't play on that either! :thumbdown:

Glad to see at least one poster here had a fix so that another had success after adding that fix. :clap:
Maybe we'll have an authentic fix soon, as I also see that Moonchild, himself, is no better off than we. :wave:

Shouldn't have to work around Twitter's junk in the first place! :crazy:

User avatar
stevenpusser
Project Contributor
Project Contributor
Posts: 903
Joined: 2015-08-01, 18:33

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by stevenpusser » 2016-05-14, 23:40

Yeah, that's pretty weird. I know Twitter video works for me on Debian Jessie, and I was able to build some Jessie 1.4.X gstreamer 1.0 base packages on 12.04 in my OBS PM repo, so I could build PM against their includes. I guess I'll add the plugin packages, which would be 1.4 versions and an upgrade from the Trusty 1.2.3. Maybe that'll help.

MasterOfNone

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by MasterOfNone » 2016-05-15, 04:31

Post by stevepusser » Sat May 14, 2016 6:40 pm
Yeah, that's pretty weird. I know Twitter video works for me on Debian Jessie, and I was able to build some Jessie 1.4.X gstreamer 1.0 base packages on 12.04 in my OBS PM repo, so I could build PM against their includes. I guess I'll add the plugin packages, which would be 1.4 versions and an upgrade from the Trusty 1.2.3. Maybe that'll help.
Thanks for the bounce-back (old CB term)
Any help would be MUCH appreciated. I'm an old grumpy person, but these kinds of things make me worse. No patience with unnecessary changes. I know old tech can't always be supported. But there are more than a few of us who can't upgrade every two weeks {or so it seems} because of one 'minor' factor—$$$$$$$ :shh: :shock:

User avatar
Moonchild
Pale Moon guru
Pale Moon guru
Posts: 35647
Joined: 2011-08-28, 17:27
Location: Motala, SE

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by Moonchild » 2016-05-15, 08:06

It seems to be a global change Twitter has made - quite possibly they are re-coding their videos after uploading (probably to save bandwidth) and their recoding strategy produces bad/fragmented/dodgy videos. Since most mobile devices are Android and Android uses a dedicated lib to handle these files, it won't be much of an issue there. Pale Moon currently simply doesn't play well with dodgy video and takes the cautious approach to not play videos that aren't right, structure-wise.
Hopefully this will be worked around when we finish our re-base as it will get an internal, dedicated parser for video files to try and work around these kinds of encoding errors.
"Sometimes, the best way to get what you want is to be a good person." -- Louis Rossmann
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite

IanDSamson

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by IanDSamson » 2016-05-16, 11:49

Thanks for your input "MoonChild".
I notice the 26.2.2 Windows version is also doing the same thing.
I will report it again to Twitter Support.
Thanks.

New Tobin Paradigm

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2016-05-16, 12:54

Off-topic:
Why did you type Moonchild's name as MoonChild when the case of how it is typed is quite clear and for that matter why did you put it in quotes?

MasterOfNone

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by MasterOfNone » 2016-05-17, 05:14

Moonchild wrote:It seems to be a global change Twitter has made
Thanks Moonchild for helping me understand what's really going on. Looking forward to the fix.
In the mean time I'll just grit my teeth and try to ignore the ones that don't play, look for the same info from another source, etc.
I've written a lot of interface code myself (not in current languages) and know the time it takes to get things right and that a fix in one place can change something else. I very much appreciate the hard work you and your associated team do to provide the rest of us access to the World. Thanks. :clap:

SfdudePM

Re: Latest PM 26.2.1: Can not play any TWITTER videos...

Unread post by SfdudePM » 2016-05-17, 13:13

Seconding @MasterOfNone. :thumbup:

Waiting anxiously for the fix
to "Twitter videos not playing"...

Here's what I'm trying to access:
https://twitter.com/Learn_Things :wtf: