Java Help Please!

lyceus · Unread post by **lyceus** » 2012-04-07, 03:54

Okay, I got bored of this thing, so I did bite the silver bullet and killed my both installs of Pale Moon and Fire Fox and made a new install from zero. Even I removed folders and keys with Ccleaner.

What I found? Java 1.4.x is not longer supported for Mozilla since is too old. Fire fox don't see it, hence Pale Moon doesn't. I just upload a nice screenshot of the results in case that someone needs that old plugin for some critical (ie. a lame java control for upload final exam notes). If you don't see old Java plugins and the procedure showed by Moonchild doesn't work, then you have two options: Upgrade Java if you can... or use MISE.

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Unread post by **Moonchild** » 2012-04-07, 07:55

Upgrade Java if you can... or use MISE.

And perhaps Java 1.4 still works in pale Moon 3.6.x, too (I haven't tested it).
It would be an idea to use the portable Pale Moon 3.6.x, dropping in the Java plugin in its proper location:
{Pale Moon Portable folder}\Lib\Java\bin\new_plugin
Then you can use this installation for the specific purpose of using your Java 1.4 web app. I strongly suggest you run it sandboxed though, like in sandboxie, because java 1.4 is not safe at all. Using MSIE with an old Java RE is asking for a lot of trouble.

Bottom line is: your university needs to upgrade their java app to be compatible with current java versions.

lyceus · Unread post by **lyceus** » 2012-04-08, 03:13

Moonchild wrote:
Upgrade Java if you can... or use MISE.
Bottom line is: your university needs to upgrade their java app to be compatible with current java versions.

I'll check with Pale Moon 3.x, Moonchild. And yes is a real cry here for that applet to change but the University have the common "we say so!" IT crowd and if you need help they send again that Java 1.4.2_19 install as a must.

px eliezer · Unread post by **px eliezer** » 2012-04-22, 21:37

Pale Moon version: 11.0.1

OS: Windows XP SP3 with full updates

Java Version: Latest available (Version 6 Update 31)

Unfortunately, Pale Moon will not recognize my Java at all even though it is the latest versions available.

Java will not appear in the list of plug-ins on Pale Moon. And that same Pale Moon page keeps telling me that my Java has been blocked for my own safety.

Also, when I go to the Java control panel ---> Browsers, and I click on Mozilla family, it never "sticks". When I go back, the box is [not] clicked once more.

This is not crucial for me, but I just want to report that even with Java 6:31 the same problem occurs! Thank you.

px eliezer · Unread post by **px eliezer** » 2012-04-23, 00:03

Relative to my post above, here is the strange thing:

I just installed SeaMonkey (another Mozilla Family browser) and the Java add-on works fine, and does [not] get disabled by the Mozilla safety check procedure !

Hope this helps in figuring out this strange issue. Thanks.

Unread post by **Moonchild** » 2012-04-23, 08:34

If you type about:plugins in your address bar and press enter, for a proper installation of the Java plugin, it should include the following entries:

Which is what I just pulled from my own 11.0.1 with Java 6U31 installed.
If it differs, it may be a good idea to uninstall the JRE completely and re-install it.

px eliezer · Unread post by **px eliezer** » 2012-04-24, 00:34

Yes, just now I uninstalled Java, then reinstalled it.

BTW, I have previously used JavaRa to make sure to remove all outdated versions of Java.

And it is the darndest thing!

Typing [about:plugins] into Pale Moon, Java still does not show up.

But typing [about:plugins] into SeaMonkey, Java shows up fine.

This is obviously a Firefox glitch.

I appreciate everyone's help, but at this point I need to get to other priorities. Thanks!

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