YouTube and PM26

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YouTube and PM26

Unread post by groundhog2 » 2016-01-27, 16:20

After updating to version 26, going to YouTube I'm presented with:
Oops, your web browser is no longer supported.

YouTube works with a wide range of browsers. However, if you'd like to use many of our latest and greatest features, please upgrade to a modern, fully supported browser.

Find the latest versions of our supported browsers below.

No thanks
Hitting "No thanks" makes it go away but looks like some more advanced features are turned off. Any user-agent tweaking to circumvent this?

megaman

Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by megaman » 2016-01-27, 16:24

Have you tried with "Firefox Compatibility Mode" on?

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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by groundhog2 » 2016-01-27, 16:28

It's always on.

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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by megaman » 2016-01-27, 16:33

groundhog2 wrote:It's always on.
Okay, can you try with it off?
I haven't seen this notification, but there are alternatives like changing the User Agent to mimic another agent.

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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by Moonraker » 2016-01-27, 16:37

I have just had the same notification.clicking no thanks makes it go away.
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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by Terryphi » 2016-01-27, 17:12

Moonraker wrote:I have just had the same notification.clicking no thanks makes it go away.
Same here but only if cookies are accepted. (Tested on Win 32 bit.)

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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by Pallid Planetoid » 2016-01-27, 17:22

Confirmed, using PM 26 displays the following message when opening webpage:
Youtube browser support message
Youtube browser support message
If you allow (protect) this specific cookie then the message will no longer display:
Protect (allow) this specific Youtube Cookie to disable the browser support message.
Protect (allow) this specific Youtube Cookie to disable the browser support message.
I'm personally using CookieKeeper (which supports Pale Moon very well), below image examples of add-on which provides the user a way to drill-down to the either keep or block site specific cookies:
CookieKeeper Cookie Protection List
CookieKeeper Cookie Protection List
Method to enter specific cookie to protect:
CookieKeeper allows user to drill down to website specific cookies
CookieKeeper allows user to drill down to website specific cookies
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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by coffeebreak » 2016-01-27, 17:31

I was able to access youtube after deleting the built-in YT custom useragent override. Compatmode was on. And I didn't accept any youtube cookies -- never do -- but this still worked. (W7 x86)

So:
about:config -> general.useragent.override.youtube.com

Deleted this value and left it blank:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/2.0 Firefox/31.9 PaleMoon/26.0

which must have kicked in the underlying compatmode useragent:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:38.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/2.0 Firefox/38.9 PaleMoon/26.0.0

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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by groundhog2 » 2016-01-27, 17:43

Thanks, that works! Easiest way to tell is if the YouTube search field shows suggestions.

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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by Moonraker » 2016-01-27, 17:48

Should we be worried..?
Is this a sign of bad things to come.
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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by MiloW » 2016-01-27, 18:13

I thought the same - is this the beginning of the end of PM?
And now what - will we have to configure every website separately so that it works OK?

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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by Sajadi » 2016-01-27, 18:22

Why a user agent override for Youtube anyway? Works flawless with just the regular Pale Moon user agent (only compat mode for Gecko enabled): Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; Win64; x64; rv:2.0) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/20160121 PaleMoon/26.0.0
Off-topic:
Btw. if you are adventurous you can enter a global user agent override, which works for all pages, that's what i do. Can of course have unwanted or unexpected side effects, but i for myself think that such a radical addition works quite nice in general.

In case if you want to try out, do the following:

1) type in: about:config
2) right click at some empty space and chose new - string
3) Write that into the box: general.useragent.override
4) press OK
5) Fill in your preferred user agent
6) Press OK and you are done ;)
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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by adisib » 2016-01-27, 18:27

Sajadi wrote:Why a user agent override for Youtube anyway? Works flawless with just the regular Pale Moon user agent (only compat mode for Gecko enabled): Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; Win64; x64; rv:2.0) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/20160121 PaleMoon/26.0.0
Youtube will not allow you to use the flash player with the default useragent. This means that Pale Moon users will be stuck with a maximum resolution of 720p. Flash player still doesn't give 60fps though (which is a bigger deal for me).

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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by groundhog2 » 2016-01-27, 18:36

Flash is evil anyway.

Would love to be able to get 1080p with the HTML5 player... maybe in the future...

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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by Sajadi » 2016-01-27, 18:42

Depends if MSE is implemented, but so far if you can read here http://www.palemoon.org/roadmap.shtml it is not on the road map.

And to the flash topic, it is for sure only a matter of time until Google pulls the plug for it for real, if you want 1080P HTML5 video, the only reliable way is to get a secondary browser which enables you to watch it.

I know that sucks, but it does not look like that a better solution is going to be offered in the near future :(

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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by CharmCityCrab » 2016-01-27, 19:03

You also may be able to create a filter manually or use element blocker to block this notice when you first see it, if you have some sort of ad block add-on installed, such as Ad-Block Latitude.

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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by back2themoon » 2016-01-27, 19:12

Sajadi wrote:...if you want 1080P HTML5 video, the only reliable way is to get a secondary browser which enables you to watch it.(
That's a bit over-dramatic. ViewTube can be used for that - other options available, too.

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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by Sajadi » 2016-01-27, 19:16

back2themoon wrote:That's a bit over-dramatic. ViewTube can be used for that - other options available, too.
As long as Google decides to keep Flash, maybe. But that is for sure not Googles long term plan. I see myself more in the way of a pessimistic realist :mrgreen:

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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by Moonraker » 2016-01-27, 19:23

From what i can gather flash is a dying medium and HTML5 is the bright road ahead,so conjecture on the flash player is a mute point.
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Re: YouTube and PM26

Unread post by half-moon » 2016-01-27, 19:33

Sajadi wrote:
back2themoon wrote:That's a bit over-dramatic. ViewTube can be used for that - other options available, too.
As long as Google decides to keep Flash, maybe. But that is for sure not Googles long term plan. I see myself more in the way of a pessimistic realist :mrgreen:
Viewtube doesn't use flash, so you can easily use HTML5 or the beta for the VLC plugin to view content.
CharmCityCrab wrote:You also may be able to create a filter manually or use element blocker to block this notice when you first see it, if you have some sort of ad block add-on installed, such as Ad-Block Latitude.
Can somebody make a filter for ABL and UBo?

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