stravinsky wrote:@ tribaljet :
1. AFAIK MC doesnt have an Intel CPU. So he cant really build specifically for Intel using ICC.
2. ICC is not free. The complete/paid version has the complete optimisations. The demo/free doesnt have all. So it would be similar to MSVC
3.Performance gains would probably be very limited.
4.you can try cross-compiling PM in linux with GCC4.7 for windows. That will definitely give you much much more control over optimisations. And you can build with march=native. So if you have an ivy bridge, you will get a browser built specifically using ivy-bridge instruction set.
Of course, it will still perform like PM, but you will get the satisfaction of using the fastest possible browser based on mozilla code.
5.Other possible PGO+SSE3+ICC build FF clones are :
Lawliet firefox and PCX firefox.
6. MC believes AMD processors are faster than Intel. So in any case he wont build for Intel.
tribaljet wrote:What do you think of Lawliet Firefox, PCX Firefox and Waterfox when compared to Pale Moon?
tribaljet wrote:Moonchild wrote:tribaljet wrote:
I say experimental build as in beta build for a future stable build for the majority of users, as AMD users are a minority.
EDIT: Beta build for an Intel build, as for all intents and purposes, the AMD build would effectively be the regular build currently available.
Nah - the AMD version should be first! hehe As I understand it, the Fx code itself is slightly skewed towards Intel in the first place. And besides - it seems MC might have an AMD anyways.stravinsky wrote:6. MC believes AMD processors are faster than Intel. So in any case he wont build for Intel.
Hoggyy wrote:That's nice to hear! I read that they are for graphics anyways, which webpages are highly composed of these days. Which is why I bought an AMD machine - plus they're cheaper than Intel. I've read that raw processing power is better on the Intel side - but they're just SO damn expensive for what you get.
I also went for AMD because I read that their processors can be easily replaced with better/faster versions most of the time. I'm sick of Intel with all their socket changes, ensuring that people can't do direct upgrades. I'm just hoping that will be possible with my new laptop here.
I really wish I could make a contributed build, and may try to do that eventually.. The problem is that I have physical and cognitive limitations - I forget easily and get confused easily. Nevertheless - I may want to try that soon. I'd hope to get enough experience to even build my own Gargoyle firmware for my router at some point (I REALLY want to change how often it writes to the flash.).
BTW - is the MSVC compiler free? That could make a big difference for me.
tribaljet wrote:About AMD's easier (read, cheaper) upgrade cycles, that's a rather simple situation, and one that doesn't translate into savings, as each AMD stepping is so incremental that the user ends up replacing hardware enough times to match the seldom yet substantial Intel upgrade cycle, so it all ends up on the same level, money wise.
Hoggyy wrote:And yes - I really WISH that Fx could get their act together and get into mutli-thead/multi-cpu territory! Maybe one of these centuries.. I thought MC did a little bit of that with moving the add-on stuff (or something) to a separate process. Maybe MC could work on that himself since Mozilla seems to be taking their sweet old time on that. That would also further set PM apart. However, I fear that that could be a monumental undertaking.
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