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PM 24.0 - flash does not work

Postby misterx » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:03 pm

Hello,

I have a problem with the new 24.0 release. I can not activate flash. I downloaded the portable (32bit) version, created a Palemoon\Bin\Palemoon\"plugins" folder and threw the newest flash .dll in there. It worked that way since I was using Palemoon, but not this time. There are no plugins under "Tools" - "Add-ons". Has something changed?

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Re: PM 24.0 - flash does not work

Postby misterx » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:15 pm

I solved my problem. It seems, I created (in previous PM versions) unnecessary a folder for plugins (Palemoon\Bin\Palemoon\"plugins"), when a folder for plugins existed under: Palemoon\Lib\Mozilla\"Plugins"
It worked fine with PM < v23, but not with v24.

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Re: PM 24.0 - flash does not work

Postby misterx » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:02 pm

I was celebrating to early... The problem is gone, but there is a new one. I can use flash, but my extensions are not working with the new (Palemoon\Lib\Mozilla\Plugins) plugin path.

2 extensions:
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/quickjava/ (problem: flash button is allways on)
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/a ... k-to-play/ (problem: flash is starting immediately)

It seems, as if both extensions are not recognising my new plugin path. Would it be possible to allow the old path in future PM releases again, or is there another simple solution?

P.s. I made fresh "install" of v24 (there was nothing left from v23). Just for the info.
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Re: PM 24.0 - flash does not work

Postby Moonchild » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:30 pm

Plugin handling in the browser has changed. Please read viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3031
If you want to control the starting of plugins, use the options in the add-on manager to set it to "ask" by default.
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Re: PM 24.0 - flash does not work

Postby Sowmoots » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:36 pm

misterx wrote:https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/click-to-play/ (problem: flash is starting immediately)


Click to play(per-element) was scrapped by Mozilla in favor of a much weaker per-site whitelist method in v24. The extension was probably relying on the old code which was removed. You can regain the old behavior by removing the extension and installing https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... r-element/.

Relevant mozillazine link for those interested: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... &t=2723831
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Re: PM 24.0 - flash does not work

Postby misterx » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:11 pm

Thank you Sowmoots and Moonchild.

I was looking for the "ask" option, but there isn't one: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5038/77i7.png

I saw it before, switched it one time and now it's gone... I will reinstall/replace my PM v24 folder.
I'll try the new "ask" possibility (maybe together with click_to_play_per_element) and decide, what is best for me. I like the idea of allowing flash permanently for specific sites. It's much better, then my flash button (on/off) extension. I wish, there would be something similar (and simple) for Java Script. A whitelist for websites, without the need of installing monstrous extensions like "noscript".

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Re: PM 24.0 - flash does not work

Postby Moonchild » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:36 pm

It's possible that one of your add-ons changed the setting for "click_to_play", which in Pale Moon is on by default (to give the "ask" option).
In about:config you can find this as "plugins.click_to_play" -- it should be set to "true", otherwise the add-on manager won't offer an "ask" option.
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Re: PM 24.0 - flash does not work

Postby misterx » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:16 pm

Thank you - it is a possibility. Unfortunately I replaced my PM folder with a fresh install allready. Should it disappear again without adding new extensions, I will post a new comment.

Would it be (in the future) possible for you, to add a "small" JS manager with a whitelist? Something that could activate JS only for specific sites? Something "simple" like "exceptions - Cookies" under privacy tab? PM is perfect allready, but this option would be a huge comfort (I am not using "noscript" and probably never will).
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Re: PM 24.0 - flash does not work

Postby Moonchild » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:03 am

misterx wrote:Would it be (in the future) possible for you, to add a "small" JS manager with a whitelist? Something that could activate JS only for specific sites? Something "simple" like "exceptions - Cookies" under privacy tab? PM is perfect allready, but this option would be a huge comfort (I am not using "noscript" and probably never will).


I'm not likely to invent the wheel twice - if you want fine-grained control, then one of the many add-ons out there to control scripting behavior would be your solution (Yes, NoScript being one of them).
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Re: PM 24.0 - flash does not work

Postby misterx » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:59 pm

You are thinking about reinventing the whole vehicle, but I only need the wheel :).

I was looking for something like the new "Ask" option. A simple solution that activates JS, when I visit a page (for example: youtube.com yes - no). Now when I have this option for cookies and plugins, without installing any extensions, it would be perfect, to have something similar for JS. I would use a simple extension, but I didn't found anything. Installing "noscript" is like installing Microsoft Office (with Excell, Word and Powerpoint) just to write one word. You can do the same with Windows (Notepad).

If you don't see the need, it's ok. It's your decision and your free time. I'm already very happy with Palemoon.
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