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Firefox 10 will be skipped!

Unread postby Moonchild » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:25 am

A heads-up about the upcoming Firefox 10 release:

Pale Moon will skip the version 10 code base, considering the implemented features in Firefox 10 are a (partial) implementation of web developer tools that are of less significance, and it does not yet address the most important issue currently present in Firefox, which is a massive performance issue for animated images.

It is therefore not considered a relevant or significant release.
Of course, a point release will be made to Pale Moon 9 to implement critical security fixes once they are finalized in the Firefox source tree, and possibly some other relevant patches will be implemented as well, to keep the browser safe and updated.

Version 11 shows more promise to be interesting and significant, with the planned implementation of SPDY, the animated image fix (cairo) that has plagued the browser since version 4 and for some reason was not considered top priority, and other, more complete implementations of features.

This next major release will be on the menu somewhere in March of 2012.
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Re: Firefox 10 will be skipped!

Unread postby Night Wing » Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:00 pm

I use Firefox as my backup browser.

Since Firefox 10 sounds like it's going to be mainly for the implementation of web developers tools, looks like I'll be skipping FF 10 and just wait for FF 11.

And I won't have to worry about my two favorite extensions (IE Tab V2 & NoSquint) being broken. :P
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Re: Firefox 10 will be skipped!

Unread postby megaman » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:27 pm

Night Wing wrote:And I won't have to worry about my two favorite extensions (IE Tab V2 & NoSquint) being broken. :P


Add-ons are set to compatible from version 10 and up, so they will work even up to FF12.0a1 Nightly, even if it states that the only work up on 4.0 - 9.0. The only thing is that some fuctionality might not work as it happened to me with Brief, but you never know.
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Re: Firefox 10 will be skipped!

Unread postby Moonchild » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:52 pm

Well, at least Pale Moon users won't have to worry about that, even - the extension interface won't see functional changes in a point release ;)
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Re: Firefox 10 will be skipped!

Unread postby dallas7 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:03 pm

Thanks for the heads up on that. Considering the annoyances presented by the Mozilla Foundation™ upgrade psychosis, I'm perfectly happy skipping 10 and looking forward to PM11, x86 and x64. In fact, you should wait until 11.0.1. ;)

Concerning the security fix(es), I am using the 9.0.1 portables on my XPx86 and Win7x64 systems. Will using File > Help > About Pale Moon > Check for Updates be sufficient for inquiry and installation of any fix(es) you release?

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Re: Firefox 10 will be skipped!

Unread postby Moonchild » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:29 pm

dallas7 wrote:In fact, you should wait until 11.0.1. ;)

I'm certainly going to give it some time to soak publicly before I release the next major version. I've done a rush release and/or pull off the wire enough now. If Mozilla won't do a proper FAT with sufficient testers, then I'll let them fix critical bugs before grabbing release code and work from that.

Concerning the security fix(es), I am using the 9.0.1 portables on my XPx86 and Win7x64 systems. Will using File > Help > About Pale Moon > Check for Updates be sufficient for inquiry and installation of any fix(es) you release?

They will be multiple fixes rolled into one, since it's going to be a new version (9.1). I don't do "hotpatches" for recompiles of changed code.
The internal updater will suffice to update the browser component for the portable, although you will (on x86) lose the compacter portable libraries and executable files if you do that, so it will take twice the space after upgrading as opposed to installing a fresh copy.
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Re: Firefox 10 will be skipped!

Unread postby lobocursor » Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:42 am

Roger. Posting this on the Spanish side of the forum! ;)
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Re: Firefox 10 will be skipped!

Unread postby megaman » Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:41 am

Currently using 10 Stable for a little more than a day, got it from the FTP.

Sites render a bit faster(I can hold this back since I use Fasterfox Lite). It also hangs a lot less than with 9 and starts up a little bit faster, also handles memory a bit better.

At first, I thought 9 would hang a lot because of the "GlassMyFox" add-on, but that wasn't much the case.
Hang = Many videos utilizing Flash. (I can open double the amount of tabs, was using 5 tabs but now 10, until it starts hanging on me. The hangs only last a little while, not much to worry about)

Overall, 10 is a slight improvement and it's arbitrary whether I recommend it or not. Real-Life scenario implied, not testing.
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Re: Firefox 10 will be skipped!

Unread postby Moonchild » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:16 pm

If the version 10 would be around for a long while it would be more relevant, but it's not. So the upgrade to Firefox "4.10" is indeed only a slight improvement and nothing compared to what is being implemented in v11.
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Re: Firefox 10 will be skipped!

Unread postby megaman » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:24 pm

Moonchild wrote:If the version 10 would be around for a long while it would be more relevant, but it's not. So the upgrade to Firefox "4.10" is indeed only a slight improvement and nothing compared to what is being implemented in v11.

Unless you want to build on the ESR version of Firefox 10, you are right.

Sure, it will keep improving, and I am anticipated for Pale Moon 11.
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